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oz man
What sort of competition would you run and what sort of prize within reason, and is there places or just the winner.
Now put on the thinking caps.
hustler57
i would have to say just the competition of day 2 day survival in sydney,

apart from that i have no idea
Jumpus GooDarus
That's a hard one oz the competion side of it that is the prize side of it is easy no probs organising a bit of sponsership in that dept
I'd like to hear what others would like to see as a comp
poly
OZMAN,i would think a photo comp, run over a month with winner takes all, and as for a prize it should not be neaded at this stage because all the posting members will get behind it, if on the other hand we wish to get more new members then a top of the line prize may help.
catchnrelease
Every one gets on a boat with Jumpy and last one to not jump overboard is the winner! tongue.gif laugh.gif
Jumpus GooDarus
We can put that Google-eyed fush up as a prize winner gets to spend a day with him & the runner up has to put up with him for a week laugh.gif laugh.gif

Somehow I dont think we'd get to many contestants hysterical.gif hysterical.gif

On a more serious note guys I was having a chat with The Chop the other day & I'm pretty sure I can persuade him to put up a Furuno Sounder as a prize for a competition.

But none of this photo contest or fishing contest we're talking about a decent prize & the whole goal of the contest will be to raise some $$$$ for a worthwhile charity say kids cancer researh or something similar & to boot some lucky member here will walk away with a new sounder.

So put on your thinking caps & come up with some idea's

Also think a contest like this will attract new ACTIVE MEMBERS
Spudly
Thats a great Idea jumpus, would definatly get the support of som shops and the hustlers radio station then...

Ill get the thinking cap going.. Its a bit rusty... but ill see if it still fires up?
hustler57
hmm well this seems like a great idea, we can organize a fishing comp or something like that we all profits going to charity, i can organize exposure for the competition, radio,magazine, and help with word of mouth, maybe to increase the prize amount we all chip in something, for example, 1 member throws in a new reel another throws in a new rod, fishing gear ect ect.
Jumpus GooDarus
No need for anyone to chip in with prizes

Told ewe's B4 I have no probs arranging prizes esp for something which the proceeds go to fund a worthwhile charity
hustler57
well lets get the ball rolling,
Jumpus GooDarus
We need a game plan 1st hustler cant just barge in & hope for the best laugh.gif laugh.gif

ont think a fishing comp is the answer either it may play a part role but couldn't see proceeds from it paying for much @ all.

I have a few idea's but will hold off mentioning them till others give some imput 1st
Spudly
Just make sure whatever you organise is at a time when i can make it...

I think ive got the first few weekend in september off smile.gif

not sure after that
Smelly
Yeah do'nt really like the idea of fish'n comps unless it's 'CnR'.That's why i left the fish'n club,don't see the point in killing heaps of fish,just for a 'good cause'.

Tell ya's what, i'm sick of seeing rubbish everywhere when i fish,how'bout we have a clean up comp.Maybe we all meet up with our gloves & bags at a spot we agree needs a clean up.We could then spend some time getting to know each other pic'n up crap,most crap in time limit wins biggrin.gif .

THEN
we could all go for a fish laugh.gif

Just a thought
SMELLY
hustler57
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Jumpus GooDarus Posted Yesterday, 08:47 PM
We need a game plan 1st hustler cant just barge in & hope for the best

ont think a fishing comp is the answer either it may play a part role but couldn't see proceeds from it paying for much @ all.

I have a few idea's but will hold off mentioning them till others give some imput 1st

im not saying lets barge in jg but lets all just make sure that we make this happen, as most of you may know im not a great fan of fishing comps myself, but i a big supporter of charities, and smelly i totally agree there are way 2 many fishos who leave there crap around the place and dont clean upp after them selves,

what ever we do its gotta be something that other members of the public/fishing community are interested in,
Spudly
The 4wd clubs often organise clean up in places like menai, so they can have access to areas that others are not allowed.. Maybe we could do somthing that benifits us as well all a charity..

Have a clean up in the morning, and then take some kids fishing or somthing?

Would be good if we had some shirts or somthing to wear while we did somthing like this?

Could make it a yearly event? have the clean up, a BBQ lunch and a fish in the afternoon. Sponsors could put there names on our shirts and they get a bit of good exposure as we walk the beach/whatever with our shirts on. Get a sponsor to throw in a few free cheapie rods for the kids and teach them how to throw a line in?
Spudly
Just xpanding on the idea, over time if it coms off, and we have th member numbers, we could expand and hold a event in each area, Ie, Sydney, sumo could do uop his way, i could do out here, arnie etc down south.
Jumpus GooDarus
Thats why I asked for other peeps ideas 1st

Once thet start to roll in we can have a look @ them all & select the ones best suited

By no means does whatever competition selected have to have to occur & finish in one day think that would not be of any great benifit

We could have what Smelly suggested but with minor prizes but dont think to many would be keen to spend their day cleaning up other peoples mess

Either way outings are good but dont think they would attract big turn outs people live all over the place
hustler57
allright fellow fishos,

what about take dissabled people out for a day of fishing and then finnish off the day with a bbq,
Spudly
liabilities...

I recon kids are the go, cause then there parants will come and get them involved!
hustler57
yep i agree with ya , kids are a great idea,

in terms of liabilities, that would have to be looked into and it would depends on how this was set up,

when my wife was working with a few mentally disabled kids we took them out fishing a few times and the parents came alone to, we had no problems when it came to being liable as the parents fully understood that at the end of the day as long as the parents are with them then they are liable for there children and any injuries would be covered by my boat insurance if in the event we had a boat crash ect ect
Jumpus GooDarus
Dosen't work like that hustler esp these days where everybody is sueing everybody.

If a outing is organised as you guys have suggested taking out disabled or handicapped even if they're not then you nedd to take out a seperate insurance policy to cover the days events you cant just rely on peoples private policies.

In your case your's will only cover whilst peeps are in the boat someone falls down @ the ramp they are not covered &the organisers are subject to be held liable.

Forget taking peeps out it requires a great deal of effort & outgoings will drastically eat away into any funds raised esp the insurance side of it
STEVE.P
I thought about it and I think we should have a wet T shirt contest .
natrualy I would be a judge biggrin.gif and so could the rest of you.
As for the prize the winner would get a rod from one of the judges. rolleyes.gif
oz man
Gee it's amazing how a question can get people think and get post happening.
Ok I four one agree with The MASTER if we organize something like any of the above with kids etc the
organizer would be responsible as far a council etc.
So the following would need to be considered.
1) Council fees for the venue
2) Public liability insurance for boating and land event.
3) Where's it to be held.
4) Advertising
5) Sponsorship who

Now to give you all an idea of cost I arranged a Christmas party on a beach reserve only 3 years ago and I sure learnt .
I thought ok it's a public area venue and it would be ok to put up a small marque and have a BBQ and drinks etc for about 60 people.
laugh.gif the ranger came and I was lucky, he allowed me to arrange the necessary permit. $1500 at the ouncil chambers.
Then he asked about insurance ,well the company insurance broker was on hand, and he arranged it under the open policy on the phone and the ranger was satisfied but $300 for the policy 1 day only and a $10 million cover.
That's why we now have our Christmas party at Golf clubs and it,s only customers ,not like before when it was more a family thing which is a crying shame..
So just think and ask question before we make a decision.
But I was thinking more of an open simple forum event as a competition.
Like tell us yah best fish tale with pictures and let the members etc vote on it.
Prizes to be simple like first a $50 voucher 2nd $30.00 and third $20 at a place to be decided.
That was what I was thinking, and as we get more member's we can look at the more elaborate events.
Jumpus GooDarus
oz I dont think there's enough active members here to warrant what you initially suggested.

I was having a word with The Chop the other day when he came around to sort out my transducer bracket & the topic came up about charities etc

I haven't said anything to him yet as I wanted to get some sort of reaction & ideas from the guys here 1st

The prize is a good one & I think thats what you need to arouse interest & like I said in a previous post I'd have no probs coming up with other worth while fishing tacke as prizes.

But Co's dont just give it to you because your name is Jumpus or oz man etc you need to put foward a proposal I know a few peeps in the industry so got my foot in the door already.

So how about some more idea's guys ??

And like both oz & i already said rule out organising days out for others but different story if say we had a outing where everybody chips in a fee & a prize goes to the person with best capture of the day
hustler57
Jumpus GooDarus Posted Jul 27 2007, 07:21 PM
Dosen't work like that hustler esp these days where everybody is sueing everybody.


well actually jg in our case it did and it still does, since my wife sometimes looks after disabled people whom we take out on the boat, the parents are liable for the child until we all get on the boat and thats when my insurance policy comes in,

but in future il just keep all of my thoughts on all topics to myself.,
Jumpus GooDarus
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but in future il just keep all of my thoughts on all topics to myself.,


No need to do that the whole idea of this thread is for peeps to put forward ideas, some will not be workable others will.

Getting back to what you proposed you're an individual doing a good deed when you take out a person on your boat but here we've talking about an organised even hence the organisers are responsible to take out insurance policies for that event & like I said costs of that would eat away to any proceeds raised which would be better served as a donation.

Also bear in mind & I'm assuming your wife has had some training in looking after the disabled I for one am clueless & if say a medical emergency arose I'd be scratching my head.

Going back many years ago my girlfriend @ the time, her sister looked after disabled kids & I know she was trained to do so so when she brought them home or for a days outing I didn't have to fear their fate would be in my hands had something gone wrong.

Same thing when the fishing club I was with many years ago organised outings for the disabled kids sure we'd supply the boats but a seperate insurance policy was taken out for the event by the organisers & there was a trained person on board in case of an emergency.
oz man
QUOTE (hustler57 @ Jul 29 2007, 04:49 AM) *
Jumpus GooDarus Posted Jul 27 2007, 07:21 PM
Dosen't work like that hustler esp these days where everybody is sueing everybody.


well actually jg in our case it did and it still does, since my wife sometimes looks after disabled people whom we take out on the boat, the parents are liable for the child until we all get on the boat and thats when my insurance policy comes in,

but in future il just keep all of my thoughts on all topics to myself.,

nah not to yourself, but I understand what your saying the parent basically sign a waiver this can be verbal or written .
But I,m not 100% sure on the boat policy as everyone may have a different type of policy.

The problems with most forums and any type of club , you have to look at where does every member live.
How will they get to the venue , is there sufficient public transport , is there enough parking, how many will need a ride in a boat.Ok it might be good for some but not for others eg Joe's only ever fished fresh and Bill well he's a deep water offshore fisherman. Now what sort of event would yah have to suit both.
I know most of you regular boys are M8 and that great and you will travel but I,m just pointing out the possible problems .

To be actual I love the Idea of Kids as both Ozwoman and myself are Foster cares just not active at present as 1 kid pulled the string and broke the old heart and the department was an asshole.

Sorry back to the subject we need something that is for all member and maybe invite outsiders.
SUMOFISHIN
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but in future il just keep all of my thoughts on all topics to myself.,


Hey Hustler, DON"T think that your Ideas are being Shot Down, some decisions need to be carefully considered. I for one can only sit back and see what transpires. WE need Members like yourself to keep putting proposals forward, I for one would like to be in a position like yourself to be able to put forward some great ideas but as you know some of us live out at woop woop and it makes things difficult, I live at Manilla THE Paragliding Capital of the World but I don't think that a competition of jumping off the Mountain and soaring up 10,000 feet would meet with much appreciation, thats why you have heard no proposals from me. You just keep up the good work and ::We of the Never Never ( and I speak for all our distant members)will sit back and see if there is any way that we can contribute or just JOIN IN. So just KEEP those Ideas rolling in.
Jumpus GooDarus
By no means was I shooting down hustlers idea I'm not narrow minded @ all esp when it comes to matters such as this & think both Donny & myself gave fair enough reasons why something like that cant happen.

Whether you want to believe it or not we were talking about an organised event & to the best of my knowledge such events remain the responsibility of the organisers in this case being fishing oz style not up to the individual boat owners.

We are also talking sponsored prizes here & I dont think sponsors would take to kindly knowing they've sponsored an event which didn't carry appropriate liability insurance esp if something did go wrong & the press gave bad publicity to the outing & their product was mentioned.

I said earlier that I did have a few idea's here's one of them & I promise I wont take offence if someone picks on it in fact if there is a flaw I'd rather someone did pick on it.

OK we've got our main prize & runner up prizes can also be organised

I think a prolonged competition for those prizes can be a good thing both to raise more money & promote this site way I figure it the more peeps here the more we can branch out & raise $$$'s

We cant have a raffle because permits etc have to be taken out but there is a loophole I'll have to look into it & make sure it still exists last thing we want is to be sued & they wont take we're doing it for charity as an excuse either.

I have no probs putting up say a spinning reel or other tackle to members here in reward for their efforts @ the end of each months I'm talking about selling tickets to a guessing competition with the person selling the most winning the prize naturally I'll exclude myself from prizes I have this way with peeps & I know alot of buiness people.

I'll just take their wallets laugh.gif laugh.gif
poly
JG this is our first go at running a comp so lets keep it simple as for selling tickets no way i will spend what little time i get fishin, what i would like to see is photo comp all can participate, IT should be run over a 3 months, with a charge of $5 per pix it will not have to be a fish pix it could be a city scape landscape this way all can have a go we wont raise a lot but it will be a start.
i know this is a fishing sight but we have a lot of members how don't fish so lets have a go and see what happens u never know i might get a shot of the P M COLAPSING after his walk. hysterical.gif
this idea is most likely full of holes so shot it down if it is and we will try to think of another way B)
Jumpus GooDarus
oz & I were discussing basically what you are saying poly the other day in the shoutbox oz suggested it I sort of shot it down & again I'll give my reasons to those who didn't read the shouts.

1st I'll like to say that I dont have any probs if you guys want such comps rum I'm nutral & have no interest in winning prizes now whether it be a photo comp or fishing comp I think somewhere someone down the line will get upset or offended because their entry did not win.

catchnrelease our very own googlefish started a thread back @ SF wanting to know if a fishing comp could be held there I had a bit of fun with him mainly stiring the cr*p out of him BUT when I wasn't stiring I put some very good reasons why I thought such a comp couldn't be fair main one for example who's to judge ??

Mods over there volunteed I Q'd alot of issues does the prize get awarded to biggest fish does it get awarded to best capture etc etc in other words I dont think the comp could be fair unless of course a nominated species of fish was elected prior to competition.

Same goes with photo's who's 2B the judge & what if that judge dosen't have your taste in whats a good photo ??

Besides how many members do you really think would enter ????? there's not that many hear

AS far as

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JG this is our first go at running a comp so lets keep it simple as for selling tickets no way i will spend what little time i get fishin,


poly no one expects you to go sat on a pub crawl to sell tickets by any means, honestly you'll find peeps will buy them say family & friends simply because it's a bloody good cause most people have kids.

Dont worry about my comment in last reply I get hit with donations for similar causes all the time & wouldn't mind a bit of pay back laugh.gif but thats just me

Another reason I think Raffle tickets are a good idea is we can have /www.fishing-oz-style printed on them so who ever buys one & has access to a computer can visit the site if anything just to see how the competion/raffle is going & I thought a visit to the hospital to get one of the kids to draw the winner would be a nice touch as well
Smelly
C'mon guys whats go'n on???


Dont tell me its the same old story.


People volunteer to do a good deed.But as soon as they find out there's a bitta hard yakka or they have to do something for another they run.


I too liked the photo idea Poly,but after reading JG's spin on the tickets,i think it's



BLOODY BRILLIANT,specialy for jg to think of it hysterical.gif

Anyway i for one will partake by ordering the first lot of tickets,c'mon jg i'll take 300.

So who's with me,let's get the name out there.


SMELLY
oz man
Well you have my vote on the ticket side , just have to find out the legal side with the lotteries department.
squizzytaylor
Charities
Just a couple of points guys, Some guys off the Newcastle site I mod for have been talking to Canteen recently about getting the kids out on the water fishing for a day and public liability is the least of thier concerns. For high profile charities like this money is usually and I use this word cautiously "abundant" its getting people to do the hard yards that they have difficulty with. The newcastle plan was to get them out fishing for a couple of hours (so sponsorship will more than likely envolve a stack of $20.00 combos and terminal tackle) and a flotilla of boats with appropriate pfds etc to equip them with). And finish up with a BBQ, the combos are to be kept by the kids at the end of the day. This idea is still in its infancy but Im happy to advise of any hiccups and or wins that we encounter.
Comps etc
Not a great fan of prize comps as (this is sad I know) but where there are prizes there are cheats. Certificates are all we offer as prizes for fishing comps, Lucky door prizes are not covered undered the lottery act and there is no law against a charge to cover BBQ expenses etc if you follow me. So a $10.00 charge may cover a sausage sanga and 5 tickets in a lucky door draw. Same result with no legal wrangles.

Cheers
GT
Jumpus GooDarus
suizzy

Think I mentioned it earlier that thefishing club I fished with did that many moons ago with the kids members offered their boats & it was a great success

BUT !

Bear in mind we are talking about a talking about a fishing club with quite a few active members who knew each other very well & the ladies took care of alot of the duties, here we have a new board we've only been going for a few months now most of us have never met, we all live all over the place not local to one another etc etc.

This makes it very hard to organise something like that maybe down the track when we have a bigger active member base it may be possible but not @ present.

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Not a great fan of prize comps as (this is sad I know) but where there are prizes there are cheats


Thats why I dont fish comp any more & I'm not a big lover of prizes for captures to many if & buts & someone is certain to get pee'd off.

What I suggested was a monthly prize to the member who pulled his finger out & sold the most tickets more as an insentive eveyone has the same oportunity to win the prize & no one can bitch about it.

After all the whole aim of the project is to raise money for charity not to have a competition amoungst ourselves
Spudly
Lets do it jumpy!
Jumpus GooDarus
I need a few weeks to tidy up some loose ends & projects then I'll start inquiring & organising it

In the meantime I'd like to see a few more members come forward in this thread who are willing to participate
jasonb
none because theres not enough members on here for one to make it happen ,its allright to say yeah ill do it but when it comes down to it hardly anyone shows up ,been involved with this before and thats all that happens
CATCH22
i good game would be each week you have to pick a fish eg snapper and who catches the biggest one then a dewy and goes on for as long as we decide and the one that has caught the nominated fish in right size wins ....eg 4 weeeks four different fish for each week ..?????
SUMOFISHIN
HEY IT Looks like JASON and MYSELF will have to run our own COMP.

we can have a TRIATHLON, 1 Cod , 1 Goat, 1 Pig,

Sounds Fair for our Region.
jasonb
ahhahaahahahh ill be in that mate
poly
i may have to come visit if i enter that one hysterical.gif
jasonb
theres plentyof room up here poly lol
Smelly
Hey Funny youse should bring this up ,

Just the other day i was thinking of getting a T-Shirt made up to advertise the site abit ..see i always meet heapsa people when out fishing & well you mention stuff to people & it can sometimes sound like a bunch of mumbo jumbo to other people not on the know , but if they read it or see it it sinks in a bit more .

I was thinking maybe a t-shirt or singlet with SMELLY written large enough across the back with somthing like ...' meet ya at Fishing-Oz-Style ' or something like that below....Just a thought .

BTW I'm still keen for the ticket thingy .
Spudly
was thinking of getting budgie smugglers made up with fishing-oz-style on them, but i think people might get the wrong idea....
jasonb
i like the sticker idea the best you can put em on cars boats campers just about anywhere
TomMc
Ok people how about we get something like this rolling again....
Where we can have a charitable cause and do some event to raise money for them...
If a member has a cause that might have effected them or a family member tell us so it can be organsed around that...
I really like this idea of fishos doin somthin for charity!
Spudly
Money for Rumpus...

He lives to far from the water and needs money to buy gear and a boat!!!

lets raise some money and buy or give him a boat!
jasonb
hey ,,i had too buy me own motor you buy your own stuff ,,ahhahahahahaaha
TomMc
Rumpus maybe if you stopped with the double vodka shots after one at brooks n dunn you woud of had enough! laugh.gif
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