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			  Apr 20 2013, 11:46 PM
			
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					![]() *FruitLoop* 53 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Donator Posts: 2,043 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Out in the sticks Member No.: 3  | 
       
			
			 
				Cant afford it but I want a new sounder.. Will prob go sounder only not a combo as ive already got the navman with the charts that i got off frank, its charts are prob not as good as the new stuff.. 
			
			
					
		Soo many options out there, the Laurence 7" would be nice, its a combo unit so I could get rid of my navman that way but i really like the gain knob on the furuno's. Some of the new garmin stuff looks pretty flash too... Just wondering peoples thoughts and what theyve used? Here is a link for a Furuno 587 from the US... Which transducer should i get with it? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Furuno-FCV5...=item2ec77dca49  | 
	
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			  Apr 20 2013, 11:49 PM
			
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					![]() *FruitLoop* 53 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Donator Posts: 2,043 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Out in the sticks Member No.: 3  | 
       
			
			 
				the Furuno 627 is a smaller screen and a bit cheaper too!
				
				
				
			 
			
			
					
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			  Apr 21 2013, 12:21 AM
			
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					![]() His Eminance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 5,725 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 2  | 
       
			
			 QUOTE  but i really like the gain knob on the furuno's Pretty sure Rob will let ewe fiddle with his nob After all ewes are best buddies on Faceless -------------------- ![]() Save The Fish, Eat a Pussy  | 
	
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			  Apr 21 2013, 12:55 AM
			
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					![]() *FruitLoop* 53 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Donator Posts: 2,043 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Out in the sticks Member No.: 3  | 
       
			
			 
				Facebook you can pick your friends ;p
				
				
				
			 
			
			
					
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			  Apr 21 2013, 02:25 PM
			
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					![]() *Mr Shiny Head* ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,221 Joined: 14-April 07 Member No.: 7  | 
       
			
			 
				Get one that shows little fish on the display they are so cool. 
			
			Twitter me on Facebook... BE MY FRIEND! BE MY FRIEND! BE MY FRIEND! -------------------- ![]() SEAFARER: Fine as a Fairy's Fart  | 
	
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			  Apr 21 2013, 02:49 PM
			
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        			 Marlin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 1,388 Joined: 9-November 07 From: lidcombe Member No.: 1,004  | 
       
			
			 
				I think if you are going to use the boat a lot weekly/fortnightly or more the Furuno would be good, if like me these days you only use the boat rarely then a cheaper sounder would do. 
			
			I use Raymarine in the outside boat but use navman in the bass boat and am at the moment fitting a new cheap color sounder up on the front cast deck it's a Garmin 300c don't know how much it was as it was a promotion I got for nicks, and next week will be it's maiden run. Feruno are great but if you can't afford it ( like you say ) get something cheaper. -------------------- Frank 
					
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			  Apr 21 2013, 07:40 PM
			
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        			 Bream ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 3-March 13 Member No.: 9,220  | 
       
			
			 
				What type of fishing and what depth? 
			
			
					
		The transducer is just as if not more important than the display. The new lowrance units are pretty good but very hard to go passed furuno for deeper water.  | 
	
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			  Apr 22 2013, 03:32 AM
			
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					![]() His Eminance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 5,725 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 2  | 
       
			
			 
				He fish's for potato cod in 3 foot of water   
			
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			  Apr 22 2013, 04:03 AM
			
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			  Apr 22 2013, 04:33 AM
			
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        			 Bream ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 3-March 13 Member No.: 9,220  | 
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			  Apr 22 2013, 07:37 AM
			
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        			 BEN 10kg ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,027 Joined: 14-August 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 370  | 
       
			
			 
				I have a $200 cheapie in my boat and no real experience with many Sounders but used my uncles HDS 7 ? For a few years, was a pretty nice unit, can get em pretty cheap these days. I would get one but can't really justify it considering the boat only gets used once a month nowadays
				
				
				
			 
			
			
					
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			  Apr 22 2013, 02:18 PM
			
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        			 Marlin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 1,388 Joined: 9-November 07 From: lidcombe Member No.: 1,004  | 
       
			
			 I have a $200 cheapie in my boat and no real experience with many Sounders but used my uncles HDS 7 ? For a few years, was a pretty nice unit, can get em pretty cheap these days. I would get one but can't really justify it considering the boat only gets used once a month nowadays I can see the writing on the wall, boat only gets used once a month these days!! girlfriend comes along and once a month becomes once every 3 months, relationship gathers momentum and boat only gets used a couple of times a year, marriage happens and we don't really need that boat any longer now do we !!!. -------------------- Frank 
					
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			  Apr 22 2013, 04:10 PM
			
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        			 Bream ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 3-March 13 Member No.: 9,220  | 
       
			
			 I have a $200 cheapie in my boat and no real experience with many Sounders but used my uncles HDS 7 ? For a few years, was a pretty nice unit, can get em pretty cheap these days. I would get one but can't really justify it considering the boat only gets used once a month nowadays Perfect excuse to get a very good, easy to use sounder so you can make the most of the fishing opportunities you do get  | 
	
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			  Apr 23 2013, 07:21 PM
			
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					 The Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Root Admin Posts: 1,053 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Sydney western suburbs Member No.: 1  | 
       
			
			
			
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			  Apr 26 2013, 08:10 PM
			
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					 the yack man ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Donator Posts: 2,165 Joined: 13-April 07 From: paradise beach Member No.: 4  | 
       
			
			 
				mate if you haven't had a look at the bias boating site, they have a good deal going on the Lowrance elite 7HDI combo with gold chart /// $1089.90 
			
			http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lowrance-Elite-7-H...a58&vxp=mtr same sounder in the states/// $799.00 with out charts Paul -------------------- bugger it's sold,got meself a house instead  
					
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			  Apr 26 2013, 09:17 PM
			
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        			 BEN 10kg ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,027 Joined: 14-August 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 370  | 
       
			
			 I can see the writing on the wall, boat only gets used once a month these days!! girlfriend comes along and once a month becomes once every 3 months, relationship gathers momentum and boat only gets used a couple of times a year, marriage happens and we don't really need that boat any longer now do we !!!. Haha nah mate I don't have a girlfriend, just having a hard time getting out cause I've been pretty busy working out my future and stuff. Had a good 10 day non stop fishing hoilday and ordering my Proline soon. Actually, can you move Sounders between boats, like buy 2 cables/mountings/transducers ? Could just go halfs with dad and share between 2 boats  | 
	
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			  Apr 26 2013, 09:18 PM
			
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        			 BEN 10kg ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,027 Joined: 14-August 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 370  | 
       
			
			 mate if you haven't had a look at the bias boating site, they have a good deal going on the Lowrance elite 7HDI combo with gold chart /// $1089.90 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lowrance-Elite-7-H...a58&vxp=mtr same sounder in the states/// $799.00 with out charts Paul Do they have geolocking or something ? Far out, I knew they were cheap but that's just wow.  | 
	
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			  Apr 27 2013, 01:59 PM
			
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					 the yack man ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Donator Posts: 2,165 Joined: 13-April 07 From: paradise beach Member No.: 4  | 
       
			
			 Do they have geolocking or something ? Far out, I knew they were cheap but that's just wow. what is geolocking??????????????????????????? ![]() Paul -------------------- bugger it's sold,got meself a house instead  
					
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			  Apr 28 2013, 12:12 AM
			
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					![]() *FruitLoop* 53 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Donator Posts: 2,043 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Out in the sticks Member No.: 3  | 
       
			
			 
				After spending the weekend sown at sussix, ive found that the current GPS and charts are out of date too. They are a C-MAP NT+ 2005 edition i got of frank and have served me well untill now when my mobile phone with navonics has better details..  
			
			
					
		So I have 2 options.... See if I can buy newer maps for my Navman 6500 and stick with it for plotting (other disadvantage is the zoon im isnt big enough making it hard to judge distances under 100m which makes it harder to find the edge of a reef) OR Buy a new Combo Unit instead of just the Furuno 587 - Either The Furuno Combo or look at the HDS 7... Any tips on what the furuno combos are like?? OR Buy the 587, Stick with my sounder, and buy a cheap tablet (10") and put navonics on it and use it like a plotter as well...  | 
	
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			  Apr 28 2013, 12:39 AM
			
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					![]() His Eminance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 5,725 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 2  | 
       
			
			 
				Buy a piece of string & go find a good rock 
			
			Tie string to the rock Tie a knot every meter on the string, this will give you depth readings Since ewe suck @ fishing Ue rock as a hurling device throw it @ the fush Who knows ewe may even hit wun on the melon & get a feed Cant be any worse than your current method -------------------- ![]() Save The Fish, Eat a Pussy  | 
	
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			  Apr 28 2013, 12:48 AM
			
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					![]() *FruitLoop* 53 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Donator Posts: 2,043 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Out in the sticks Member No.: 3  | 
       
			
			 
				Beats sitting on the computer all day telling people how to fish!
				
				
				
			 
			
			
					
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			  Apr 28 2013, 02:11 AM
			
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					![]() *FruitLoop* 53 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Donator Posts: 2,043 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Out in the sticks Member No.: 3  | 
       
			
			 
				If you can try and be serious JG for 1 minute, can get a 585 for under 1k out of the US, figure that many pro boats been using them for years so will be more than good enough for me!  
			
			
					
		What transducer do I get but?? can get a TM Tri-Ducer 50/200KHZ 600W  | 
	
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			  Apr 28 2013, 02:37 AM
			
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					![]() His Eminance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 5,725 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 2  | 
       
			
			 Beats sitting on the computer all day telling people how to fish! I can do this because i can Geez spud not the sort of thingy i like advising on peeps budgets are the prob Big goat i'm runing the 585 with the TM258 i get goodarus readings tis a 1 kw tranny & nearly the price of the 585 & i also run a 600 L married to a 525T-PWD: 600W tranny, same tranny i run on wittle goat married to the 585 On wittle goat i run the 7000 s combo but only use it as a GPS but also have the option of pluging the tranny into it as well -------------------- ![]() Save The Fish, Eat a Pussy  | 
	
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			  Apr 28 2013, 03:03 AM
			
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					![]() *FruitLoop* 53 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Donator Posts: 2,043 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Out in the sticks Member No.: 3  | 
       
			
			 
				http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/200918718665?ss...984.m1423.l2649 
			
			
					
		is the package im looking at, heaps cheaper than the newer 587, but allows me to upgrade the card in my navman to use as a plotter (looking into update at the moment) and will do more than i need already!  | 
	
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			  Apr 28 2013, 09:56 AM
			
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        			 BEN 10kg ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,027 Joined: 14-August 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 370  | 
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			  Apr 28 2013, 01:49 PM
			
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					![]() *FruitLoop* 53 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Donator Posts: 2,043 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Out in the sticks Member No.: 3  | 
       
			
			 
				Dan the furuno units im looking at are brought into the country specially for aus. 
			
			
					
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			  Apr 28 2013, 07:12 PM
			
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        			 BEN 10kg ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,027 Joined: 14-August 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 370  | 
       
			
			 
				Nah mate was referring to the Lowrance unit Poly posted as I was interested in one
				
				
				
			 
			
			
					
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			  Apr 28 2013, 09:49 PM
			
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					 the yack man ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Donator Posts: 2,165 Joined: 13-April 07 From: paradise beach Member No.: 4  | 
       
			
			 this all sounds a bit sus to me, how would you navigate the world if your unit dose not work out side your home country ?????????????????????????????????? Paul -------------------- bugger it's sold,got meself a house instead  
					
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			  Apr 29 2013, 01:56 AM
			
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					![]() His Eminance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 5,725 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 2  | 
       
			
			 
				Yo spud ! 
			
			Have a looky @ this unit since ewe're into the flea bay thingy http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GISELA-GRAHAM-G...=item337d529b96 -------------------- ![]() Save The Fish, Eat a Pussy  | 
	
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			  Apr 29 2013, 03:27 AM
			
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					![]() *FruitLoop* 53 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Donator Posts: 2,043 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Out in the sticks Member No.: 3  | 
       
			
			 
				thats awesome, ordered it for you
				
				
				
			 
			
			
					
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			  Apr 29 2013, 03:57 AM
			
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        			 BEN 10kg ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,027 Joined: 14-August 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 370  | 
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			  Apr 29 2013, 02:38 PM
			
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					![]() *Mr Shiny Head* ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,221 Joined: 14-April 07 Member No.: 7  | 
       
			
			 
				First I'd be looking to finish up with 2 units to get larger screen sizes rather than a combo Rumpus. 
			
			In my book it goes without saying Furuno ticks all the boxes for quality. I'd also be looking at how the units can interact with each other if at all + any nmea input benefits. I'd be looking at what maps are available for them and comparing screenshots of the same areas. Bloody nightmare really, glad it's your problem and not mine. Most important... Make sure the sounder shows fishies on it and with a big screen they will look huge. -------------------- ![]() SEAFARER: Fine as a Fairy's Fart  | 
	
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			  Apr 29 2013, 08:15 PM
			
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        			 Bream ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 3-March 13 Member No.: 9,220  | 
       
			
			 
				We have a 585 in the small boat and a 627 in the tinny. 
			
			
					
		The 585 vs the 587 they are basically identical. Newer model slightly better screen ect plus the bottom structure indication. IMO no point buying a 585 if you don't use a 1kw tranny if you are going 600w just buy a 620 with a p66 transducer.  | 
	
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			  Apr 30 2013, 01:38 AM
			
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					![]() *FruitLoop* 53 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Donator Posts: 2,043 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Out in the sticks Member No.: 3  | 
       
			
			 
				Yea, thanks for the advice POD... just like the idea of the big screen!! if i go the smaller one ill go the 627...  
			
			
					
		Been speaking to Marine Direct about A upgrade chart for the navman which will improve its use as a plotter and then get the sounder...  | 
	
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			  Apr 30 2013, 11:15 PM
			
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					 the yack man ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Donator Posts: 2,165 Joined: 13-April 07 From: paradise beach Member No.: 4  | 
       
			
			 
				B.C.F. have the  Garmin G.P.S. 750S combo for $1299 IF you are a card holder $1099  &  the latest Lowrance HDS7 touch combo $1699 and for card holders $1595 
			
			got the prices from the latest cattle dog Paul -------------------- bugger it's sold,got meself a house instead  
					
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			  May 2 2013, 12:37 AM
			
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					![]() His Eminance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 5,725 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Sydney Member No.: 2  | 
       
			
			 
				Yo Spuddy Wuddy 
			
			Fujitsu are releasing new units next few months around goat show time -------------------- ![]() Save The Fish, Eat a Pussy  | 
	
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