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post Feb 23 2011, 05:52 PM
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What's the point of them, can anyone give me a fair dinkum reason for their existence?

They run about $1500-$2000 and the only people that give them a rap are the suckers that bought them.

It seems that none of them are designed to take the strain so the anchor rope has to be tied off anyway so that means a trip to the front of the boat everytime you anchor or unanchor, I just don't get it?

To my way of thinking the best they can do is save you pulling in a slack anchor after the traditional anchor yank with a float.


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post Feb 23 2011, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE (Fed @ Feb 24 2011, 12:52 PM) *
I just don't get it?



No ewe dont , it seems to be your life's story

Ewe just dont get it do ewe ?? laugh.gif

I'll try & explain s l o w l y s o e w e ' r e w i t t l e w i t t l e b r a i n m a y h a v e s u m c h a n c e o f u n d e r s t a n d i n g laugh.gif


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post Feb 23 2011, 11:04 PM
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There's already too much bullshit on the net without you adding to it Jumpy.


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post Feb 23 2011, 11:10 PM
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Ewe just dont get it do ewe Fed ?? hysterical.gif hysterical.gif


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post Feb 23 2011, 11:29 PM
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Geez you would not want to get your foot stuck in one of those would you


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post Feb 24 2011, 12:46 AM
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Hey Shiny FOOT !

Are ewe related to Mr Shiny Head ?????????????


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post Feb 25 2011, 03:50 AM
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I'd honestly love one.

Push the button your anchor goes down push the button in comes up, but then again i'm a lazy bastard.
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post Feb 25 2011, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE (quintrex101 @ Feb 25 2011, 10:50 PM) *
I'd honestly love one.

Push the button your anchor goes down push the button in comes up, but then again i'm a lazy bastard.


Daniel. When you push the button to lower the anchor, how do you know it's anchored up properly?.
I would rather feel through my own hands that the anchor has firmly grabbed onto something!!.
I have never used one so am not critisizing the system, just something that I doubt would suit me.
Sometimes in a days fishing I might set and pull up anchor 5 or more times, in water 70 metres sometimes deeper,, how would the batterys cope with this sort of work ?.
I have been using the bouy retrieval system for around 20 odd years and old habits die hard.


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QUOTE (Fed @ Feb 24 2011, 12:52 PM) *
What's the point of them, can anyone give me a fair dinkum reason for their existence?


Same can be said about a certain Seafairy owner who has electric whinch on his trailer
Charter operators who dont have a dicky 2 do the pulling
No mess all the rope gets spooled back onto the drum
Peeps who have bad access to bow of boat like seafairy owners laugh.gif laugh.gif

list goes on

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It seems that none of them are designed to take the strain so the anchor rope has to be tied off anyway so that means a trip to the front of the boat everytime you anchor or unanchor,


Bullshit

Ewe just dont get it do ewe Fed ?? laugh.gif laugh.gif


Ewe're confucoring Electric Anchor Winches with windlass's/capstan setup

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I just don't get it?[/


Thats wot I've been trying to tell ewe laugh.gif laugh.gif


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QUOTE (nimrod @ Feb 26 2011, 10:03 AM) *
Daniel. When you push the button to lower the anchor, how do you know it's anchored up properly?.
I would rather feel through my own hands that the anchor has firmly grabbed onto something!!.

Buggers up my manicures Frank laugh.gif
I have a small 8" styrene ball float on board attached to short piece of rope & a longline clip it goes out just over a boat length b4 rope gets tied to the bollard when I see float go under i know pick is in.

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Sometimes in a days fishing I might set and pull up anchor 5 or more times, in water 70 metres sometimes deeper


That's why ewe have crew laugh.gif

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how would the batterys cope with this sort of work ?.


Not a prob when your using winch your going & motor is running


Have fitted wun of these electric winches to a boat but wouldn't have wun myself, they're too bulky & wun should look @ stiffening/supporting place where it's attached


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post Feb 25 2011, 04:10 PM
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It seems that none of them are designed to take the strain so the anchor rope has to be tied off anyway so that means a trip to the front of the boat everytime you anchor or unanchor,


Bullshit

That's my understanding of them at the moment Jumpy, do you know of any anchor drum winches that don't need the rope tied off when anchored or pulling the anchor?


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post Feb 25 2011, 04:19 PM
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Ewe still dont get it do ewe Fed laugh.gif laugh.gif

No need to tie off the rope, my comments were in relation to mounting the winch securely to the boat once that is done then there's no probs

Glass goats should ideally have a pad glass'd in to accomidate large coach bolts
Alloy boats should have a frame welded in
Plastic boats ??? well they shouldn't even be on the water laugh.gif laugh.gif


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post Feb 25 2011, 04:33 PM
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No need to tie off the rope

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Jumpy, do you know of any anchor drum winches that don't need the rope tied off when anchored or pulling the anchor?

I'll wait for as long as it takes.


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post Feb 25 2011, 05:58 PM
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Got tired of waiting for you Jumpy so I googled for a bit.
It seems that stress free winches don't need tying off so there you go, they sure do make it look easy in the video on their website.

This opens up some new questions, what do you do with a winch if you want to deploy a dan buoy?

Right now, what are members doing with the bitter end of their rope, mine's tied to a large plastic bottle & I'm going to put a loop in the end to slip over the bollard if I don't want to let it go when I'm at the end of my rope.


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Cant be told can ewe Fed ??????????? laugh.gif

Said I've fitted wun, in fact it went on the Action Charters boat 8 odd meter kevla cat

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This opens up some new questions, what do you do with a winch if you want to deploy a dan buoy?


No need to GoogleFeddy laugh.gif laugh.gif just push the button & up comes the anchor


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post Feb 25 2011, 08:28 PM
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Never stop learning stuff Jumpy, I have a hatch which is very easy to use so I'll be sticking to the old anchor yank ball like Frank.


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post Feb 25 2011, 10:21 PM
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I never need to go up the bow. i have a painter with elastic band ( quiet a large one ) which takes the shock out of the anchor, and I have all the rope etc in the main part of the boat.
Unstretched

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Stretched
http://www.fishnet.com.au/content/fishnet/...cabfcc9b58c.jpg

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post Feb 25 2011, 10:39 PM
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How do you go about deploying & retrieving the anchor Frank, sorta step by step if it's not too much trouble mate.


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post Feb 25 2011, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE (Fed @ Feb 26 2011, 05:39 PM) *
How do you go about deploying & retrieving the anchor Frank, sorta step by step if it's not too much trouble mate.



Fed for anchoring up I let the anchor with chain and rope out from the cockpit, side of boat till
I feel it properly set, I then watch my sounder and pay out rope till I am happy with my position
I then take the Painter, which is held in place with a Stainless quick release clip around my front grab rail and while holding the anchor rope with a little slack, I quickly do a double loop in the anchor rope and attatch the clip, If the current is very quick you may have to put motor into gear to hold position and get enough slack. I then let the rope go till it sets the boat firm with the painter.

Retrieving I take my foam buoy about 40cm in circumferance/across which is attatched to about 18 inches of rope that is spliced onto another quick release clip, ( the boat in bermi just has a large round O Stainless ring ) .
I pull the excess/painter toward me and while holding onto the anchor rope, detatch the painter and
replace onto the grab rail, and slip the release clip onto the anchor rope. If really tight I use the boat power in gear and idle toward the anchor.
I then let the buoy and rope go while I drive off on a slight angle, to avoid possible contact with motor driving toward the anchor, Upcurrent.
Mean while I have looped the loose part of the anchor rope around the rear bollard of the boat,
( Never ever under any circumstance TIE the rope to the rear of the boat anywhere ) and simply drive off into the swell till the buoy comes back to the surface and creates a rooster tail.
I then slowly head back to the buoy while easily pulling the loose/floating rope back into the boat with circular loops, when I have a hand full of loops I drop them into the anchor box with last piece of rope uppermost to prevcent any tangles. When all the rope chain and anchor is back neatly in the box, I go to my next place of call.
Some people put the buoy on the anchor rope when they anchor up, but I have got used to waiting till I want to pull up before attatching the buoy.
I can easily do this all by myself, but as I rearely go fishing solo It's easier with help, providing the help knows what to do.


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post Feb 26 2011, 11:03 PM
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Thanks Frank, although I nearly sunk my boat once I agree pulling from the back is OK so long as you know exactly what you're doing and where the dangerous part is. Pulling from the front has its own hazards like running over the prop.


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