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quintrex101
post Dec 9 2010, 05:08 AM
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Hey Fellas

After xmas i'm upgrading the cheap sounder on my boat to something abit more upmarket.

I want a GPS/Sounder/Plotter Combo, and want to spend no more then $1500, infact that's pushing the friendship with the father, so if it's cheaper oversea's let us know.

I also want a downrigger, for around $300, oversea's if possible as well.


Thanks for any help. smile.gif
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post Dec 9 2010, 01:23 PM
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I bought the Humminbird combo and even Jumpy is impressed hysterical.gif Its a 788cxi... but 5 inch screen, (not that size matters, they say) led screen etc.. got all the tricks. Internal GPS.


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post Dec 9 2010, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE (Bees Knees @ Dec 10 2010, 08:23 AM) *
I bought the Humminbird combo and even Jumpy is impressed


I'd take the bloody thing back & get a real unit
People hu buy wittle toys only ketch wittle fishy's & definately NO SQUIDDY's hysterical.gif hysterical.gif


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post Dec 9 2010, 04:25 PM
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I use my GPS as a speedo & voltmeter.


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post Dec 9 2010, 04:27 PM
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My depth sounder shows fish in 3 different sizes (very entertaining) but it doesn't show squid pictures so I think I need an upgrade too.


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post Dec 9 2010, 06:09 PM
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They look alright Jed but i don't about the screen, i really wanted bigger, i remember jumpy saying something about it ?
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QUOTE (quintrex101 @ Dec 10 2010, 01:09 PM) *
They look alright Jed but i don't about the screen, i really wanted bigger, i remember jumpy saying something about it ?


Each to their own Daniel.. Jumpy uses a bigger screen because he's blind as a bat... He needs glasses to I.D. the difference between a Salmon and a Tailor these days...smile.gif

Bigger = more $$$ and you said you wanted to save some $$$, the one i got is affordable...


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post Dec 9 2010, 07:35 PM
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Oh is that all ? laugh.gif

It looks good mate, does it come with a mapping card or can you put a navio SD card in it ?

There like $350
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post Dec 9 2010, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE (quintrex101 @ Dec 10 2010, 01:09 PM) *
i remember jumpy saying something about it



Not very hard he has to say something about everything poke.gif

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post Dec 9 2010, 09:13 PM
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Oh is that all ? laugh.gif

It looks good mate, does it come with a mapping card or can you put a navio SD card in it ?

There like $350


No Mapping... look on the bias boating site pal... You have basic mapping with no depth, but i dont need it, i have kkw... he hooked me up and i just transfer the marks hysterical.gif


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QUOTE (Bees Knees @ Dec 10 2010, 02:30 PM) *
Jumpy uses a bigger screen because he's blind as a bat... He needs glasses to I.D. the difference between a Salmon and a Tailor these days...smile.gif


Nothing wrong with jumpus earsight, I only need goggles up close in bad light else my earsight is better than most.

No probs ID'n Man Boobies up close esp if they belong to Pamella Bees cant miss that pair of Kahuna's esp with the TsiTsiKi rubbed into them hysterical.gif hysterical.gif

As far as units go ??
Stuff like wot Bees has are toys for alot of reasons

1st bit of GooDarus advice I'll give ewe is dont buy a combo.

When fushing in close or out wide I use my sounder & GPS to death & can see screens from anywhere on the boat OK they are big screens but size = only part of the equation.

Biggest factor to look @ is screen definition how many colours units has etc etc.

Yep I use Furuno & shake my head every time I see sum bloody irriot go on how his lowrance is exactly the same but 1/2 the price

Wot a Load of BULLSHIT

DanuSun your old man would strangle ewe if ewe suggested getting wot I use hysterical.gif

Not going to recomend any units cause your budget is not the same as mine but I will recomend not getting a combo go for 2 seperate units.

Do research on GPS find unit that accepts a C Map card those Navtronics cards are way infirior
C Map cards use proper Naval charts
I do have a Navtronics Gold on Mini Me & it's no where as good pretty crappy actually


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post Dec 10 2010, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE (Jumpus GooDarus @ Dec 10 2010, 07:16 PM) *
Nothing wrong with jumpus earsight, I only need goggles up close in bad light else my earsight is better than most.

No probs ID'n Man Boobies up close esp if they belong to Pamella Bees cant miss that pair of Kahuna's esp with the TsiTsiKi rubbed into them hysterical.gif hysterical.gif

As far as units go ??
Stuff like wot Bees has are toys for alot of reasons

1st bit of GooDarus advice I'll give ewe is dont buy a combo.

When fushing in close or out wide I use my sounder & GPS to death & can see screens from anywhere on the boat OK they are big screens but size = only part of the equation.

Biggest factor to look @ is screen definition how many colours units has etc etc.

Yep I use Furuno & shake my head every time I see sum bloody irriot go on how his lowrance is exactly the same but 1/2 the price

Wot a Load of BULLSHIT

DanuSun your old man would strangle ewe if ewe suggested getting wot I use hysterical.gif

Not going to recomend any units cause your budget is not the same as mine but I will recomend not getting a combo go for 2 seperate units.

Do research on GPS find unit that accepts a C Map card those Navtronics cards are way infirior
C Map cards use proper Naval charts
I do have a Navtronics Gold on Mini Me & it's no where as good pretty crappy actually



I'll back Jumpy up all the way with this one, about seperate units, I had a combo for a few years and everything worked as expected, but it's not the same as having seperate units.
I have a modest budget as well, ( would have Feruno ) if I had the dollars to outlay, but at the moment i run a Raymarine sounder and a navman GPS with Cmaps. The Navman are pretty basic without the extra Cmap, but once the map is added it is a magic unit, takes a but to get used to.
My one has inbuilt antenna so you just have to have a quick release power cable and you can take it from boat to boat.
I wouldn't want to go for anything under a 5 inch screen.
I would like bigger but thats just wishful thinking.


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post Dec 10 2010, 02:01 AM
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Alright, thanks guys, i'll keep looking into some more units. smile.gif
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post Dec 10 2010, 10:53 AM
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may be able to help with the down rigger mate, some of the boys have bought through this mob in the states and tell me they very good to deal with.
also mate check out there sounder gps deals, just remember that the gps units will most likely be loaded with U.S. base maps

http://www.jandhproducts.com/_e/dept/12-00...Downriggers.htm

smile1.gif Paul smile1.gif


if i may ad this, in this young mans case i don't think a large screen is needed, after all it is a smaller boat and you should be able to read a 5 or 6 inch from most parts of the craft


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QUOTE (poly @ Dec 11 2010, 05:53 AM) *
if i may ad this, in this young mans case i don't think a large screen is needed, after all it is a smaller boat and you should be able to read a 5 or 6 inch from most parts of the craft


Not if ewe have to split a combo in 1/2 & have to read 2 & 1/2 "
The kid wants to Downrig ewe try doing that with a combo hassle free


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QUOTE (Jumpus GooDarus @ Dec 11 2010, 12:02 PM) *
Not if ewe have to split a combo in 1/2 & have to read 2 & 1/2 "
The kid wants to Downrig ewe try doing that with a combo hassle free


very true J.G., I was thinking he may go the two separate units.
If u have two 5inch screens would not that be the same as splitting a single 10inch ?????
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Spliting any size screen is a pain in the arse only time I ever split my 10" on the big goat is on the run home NOT when I'm fushing


And that is only to engage both Radar & GPS

On wittle goat I could've easily gone with just wun unit as the A65 is a combo but I only use it as a GPS & run a seperate Furuno 620 as the sounder

Prob with combo's besides losing out on screen size is there's to much fart arsing about with setting ewe have to switch over from either gps to sounder visa versa to adjust any of the settings no such prob with 2 units.

Sum might think a non issue but when I look @ say Bees doing it on his I just hysterical.gif

You're either fishing or playing with toys & ewe cant ketch fish if playing with toys or man boobies


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post Dec 10 2010, 08:50 PM
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But if your downrigging, why do you need the gps on ?
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Are you serious Jumpy?? You push one bloody button to go between 5 different screens... Its not hard. hysterical.gif
The major drama is if one goes, they both go... rolleyes.gif emot201.gif

I realise my combo pails on comparision, but the electronics on your big boat is worth more than my BMT... It made perfect sense for you to interchange between it and mini me.

Daniel, you have a budget! Within that budget your saying you need both a sounder and GPS! If you can squeeze 2 units with the $$$ at your disposal then do it mate!!! I would of been castrated, spending $4.5k on them... She doesnt have a sense of humour sometimes..

P.S. You dont need your GPS whilst in the act of downrigging... You need a sounder hysterical.gif


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I can get the HDS 7 for $990 mate, that seems like the best price for the screen ans a good combo.
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post Dec 10 2010, 10:33 PM
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$990 were from, if its from o.s. then make sure it has Australian base maps

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QUOTE
It made perfect sense for you to interchange between it and mini me.


Wanted to but no way I could fit the units into the smaller goat

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Daniel, you have a budget!
Dosen't need to buy 2 units he's allready got a sounder a new sounder is not going 2b any better than existing unless it's a black & white & ewe want a colour unit


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P.S. You dont need your GPS whilst in the act of downrigging... You need a sounder


Wot a load of bullshitta that is just because ewe only have 2 marks in your GPS [Booby Mt & TsiTsiKi Creek] dosen't mean others dont use GPS to death hysterical.gif

DaNusun GPS's are a asset when Downriggin ewe follow your tracks mark where baitfish schools are & keep coming back to them same when you get a strike ewe know exactly where ewe got hit & ewe'll find that area will hold the fish.

When drifting say for snappy toms ewe can see every track ewe've drifted & know area's holding fish so when ewe go back to do drift again ewe're not wasting time drifting over dead water.

No different if you're out chasing game fish whether on the troll/drift GPS is an asset wunce ewe've learned to use it in conjuction with the sounder your capture results will increase both are tools of the trade.

Bees is still a PadWunGurner only knows [Booby Mt & TsiTsiKi Creek] hysterical.gif hysterical.gif


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post Dec 10 2010, 10:43 PM
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The sounder on the boat now is a cheap $150 Hummingbird, the picture isn't to bad on it but.
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Nothing wrong with a combo if you have limited space or cant afford two units
Just get the best you can afford
You use the mapping screen when circling bommies (you may need to adjust the zoom)and rises
The fish finder screen is used to find the bait schools (and preditors if your lucky)of course

I use a hummingbird witch also controls my downrigger. Im so glad I went with the electric model as I can opperate it by myself.
I bought the downrigger from J&H products as paul suggested, they also have great sales service
Next time im out I will take some picys for you mate. Wont be this week though as my boss is overworking me with 13hr days

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I will rephrase, just so i dont get taken out of context again... hysterical.gif

Ah bugger it, I'm going back to watch National Geographic.. rolleyes.gif


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Better tie up the kids so they dont run away from home again whilst your busy watching the idiot box hysterical.gif hysterical.gif


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QUOTE (Bees Knees @ Dec 10 2010, 04:13 PM) *
No Mapping... look on the bias boating site pal... You have basic mapping with no depth, but i dont need it, i have kkw... he hooked me up and i just transfer the marks hysterical.gif


Frank pointed Sum Ting out 2day & I had to agree with him

Bees carefull of the marks ewe transfer from kkw pc prog to gps they are inacurate on a navtronic cards

No such prob transfering those marks to a C Map card, as I said previously C map is based on proper naval charts unlike the navtronic cards

Pretty poor those navtronic cards for detail even with the gold card, they have my goat traveling over land when I'm travelling on water


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But jumpus doesn't your one put the jetty further away than it really is as well???

I seem to recall a post with your boat and a jetty in a love triangle

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QUOTE (jack @ Dec 12 2010, 07:48 PM) *
But jumpus doesn't your one put the jetty further away than it really is as well???


Yeah that's the GPS with the Navtronic card


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Just add a zero that should fix it. hysterical.gif


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Wot ewe on about Fed ??


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